blogHOUSTON.net forum

For discussion of items posted to blogHOUSTON.net

You are not logged in.

#1 1969-12-31 19:00:00

Anne
Moderator
Registered: 2004-09-08
Posts: 3,833

Bill White's 9 Steps to Financial Freedom? (#1)

Senate-candidate White donned his mayoral cap this week to caution Houston mayoral-wannabes about excessive spending during the recession:

White warns against new spending
Mayor tells voters to be wary of promises by candidates who are vying for his job

“Texas has not come out of the recession, and sales tax receipts are dropping,” White wrote in a post on his Facebook page Tuesday. “Be sure not to vote for our next mayor based on commitments of more spending in the next two years.”

White, who personally has given that advice to the candidates, said he did not know of specific campaign promises that went too far. The admonition, however, was born of experience, as hard fiscal times have defined the beginning and end of White's time in office.

That's good advice:  Be wary of promises by candidates. 

However, a new press release on the mayor's official website touts his success at spending millions for his green preferences:

The City of Houston and Mayor Bill White have been recognized by Automotive Fleet Magazine as one of the nation’s top Green Fleet Leaders and will receive the first annual “Green Fleet Leadership” Award at the 2009 Green Fleet Conference, October 19-20, in Chicago.

The City of Houston’s green fleet accomplishments include:

-- Replacing 683 passenger vehicles with hybrids through the Mayor’s Hybrid Initiative, as well as scheduled replacement of 34 heavy-duty vehicles with hybrid and clean-diesel vehicles.

-- Surpassing Houston’s own emissions reduction plan by achieving total 2009 fleet greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions of 90,864 tons per year (tpy), 6.1% below Houston’s 2010 Emissions Reduction Plan goal of 96,761 tpy and 7.8% below the 2010 business-as-usual projection (Of note: overall GHG emissions have increased by only 3% despite the fleet increasing in size by 12%).

-- Reducing fleet fuel consumption from 9.4 million gallons in 2005 to 8.8 million gallons in 2009.

So, let's do a little basic math, using some reasonably guesstimated numbers:

683 passenger vehicles (Toyota Prius') x $25,000 = $17.1 million
.6 million gallon fuel consumption reduction x $2.20 = $1.32 million

So Mayor White spent $17 million (give or take) to save $1.5 million (give or take).  You may now insert the joke about the wife who justifies her shopping spree by telling her husband how much money she saved.

Indeed, Texans should be wary of promises by candidates.



Link to post:  http://www.bloghouston.net/item/7847

Offline

#2 2009-09-26 16:39:42

Writeacher
Member
From: Spring, TX
Registered: 2004-12-11
Posts: 514
Website

Re: Bill White's 9 Steps to Financial Freedom? (#1)

And besides, those Priuses are just plain ugly -- not the ugliest out there, but still awful!

Offline

#3 2009-09-26 20:34:02

rorschach
Member
From: Spring, Texas
Registered: 2005-01-05
Posts: 3,926
Website

Re: Bill White's 9 Steps to Financial Freedom? (#1)

Actually Anne, it is much worse than that. I question the purported fuel savings. Savings over what? A full sized Caprice or Crown Vic with a police interceptor package or a Toyota Yaris?
http://redinktexas.blogspot.com/2009/07 … iuing.html


http://redinktexas.blogspot.com/
"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”
Samuel Adams

Offline

#4 2009-09-27 13:19:37

lurlene
Member
Registered: 2009-09-27
Posts: 1

Re: Bill White's 9 Steps to Financial Freedom? (#1)

Wait a minute!  This analysis is COMPLETELY flawed.  It said the city REPLACED 683 vehicles.  The city was going to buy some sort of vehicle anyways, so it is in no way shape or form valid to decree that the city spent $17m to save on fuel costs.  Did the city spend more than they would have had they bought non hybrids?  Absolutely.  Is it $17m more?  Not hardly.  A base Prius is $22k.  A base Corolla is $15.3k.  A difference of $6.7k per vehicle.

Doing the math correctly yields the following:

$6,700 x 683 = $4.6 million spent

.6 million gallons x $2.20 x 5 year life of vehicle = $6.6 million saved

Ooopsie.  $2 million saved.

I'm not a big fan of hybrids for the average consumer, I think it is eco-snobbery at its finest.  If people really wanted to save the planet, they'd ride their bike.  The numbers, however, prove that hybrids DO make sense in fleets where they're going to rack up a ton of mileage putting around in the city.

Offline

#5 2009-09-27 18:42:06

rorschach
Member
From: Spring, Texas
Registered: 2005-01-05
Posts: 3,926
Website

Re: Bill White's 9 Steps to Financial Freedom? (#1)

lurlene, you are comparing apples and oranges, given what the city employees do with these vehicles, a Corolla is massive overkill. A Yaris is a much more efficient use of city monies, and my analysis shows that the city could have driven the wheels off a Yaris for the purchase price of a Prius. And it is not the city's place to be overspending taxpayer monies. And your assumption of a five year life is wildly optimistic for city vehicles. 2 years is closer to the norm. They get abused pretty badly and are driven into the ground.

Last edited by rorschach (2009-09-27 18:48:02)


http://redinktexas.blogspot.com/
"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”
Samuel Adams

Offline

#6 2009-09-28 08:10:32

Kevin
Administrator
From: Tanglewilde
Registered: 2004-09-08
Posts: 6,929

Re: Bill White's 9 Steps to Financial Freedom? (#1)

Lurlene -- welcome to the forum! It's good to have some new blood around here.

Offline

#7 2009-09-28 08:27:39

Neal Meyer
Member
From: Houston
Registered: 2005-12-19
Posts: 686
Website

Re: Bill White's 9 Steps to Financial Freedom? (#1)

Lurene, ditto Kevin's welcome from me. We always love new blood around here.

We had some volunteer greeters who used to welcome people a while back, but rumor had it that they were dragged off to the funny farm.

Neal


It's one thing to read or listen to what people say they want. It is far more important however to watch what people actually do. That is when you can make a judgment as to what it is that people really value and what is genuinely important to them.

Offline

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB