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#1 2011-07-28 13:06:11

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METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

METRO CEO SUSPENDED ONE WEEK FOR VIOLATING COMPUTER POLICY (METRO Press Release)
                     

METRO President & CEO George Greanias has been suspended for one week, without pay, effective immediately. This disciplinary action followed a METRO investigation that concluded Mr. Greanias violated company guidelines on the use of electronic communications.

METRO’s investigation revealed that while on his personal computer, Mr. Greanias  accessed more than one dozen adult oriented sites of a sexual nature through the METRO Internet System. The access violations occurred on 14 days from February 9, 2011 to July 1, 2011.

Well, there's a titillating new item for Mike Snyder to add to the next biographical puff piece on METRO's playwright-in-chief!



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#2 2011-07-28 13:11:26

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

What about all the other Metro employees watching porn?

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#3 2011-07-28 13:23:50

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

I guess the computer didn't fit in the shredder.

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#4 2011-07-28 13:25:31

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Anyone in the private sector would be fired immediately.  This one-week suspension is a joke!

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#5 2011-07-28 14:17:17

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

The list of websites he was visiting (via Hair Balls) is a little disturbing.

Gay porn sites? Certainly not appropriate for work computers/networks.

Throw in boys and prostitution, and that seems more problematic.

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#6 2011-07-28 15:03:55

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

stockbroker wrote:

Anyone in the private sector would be fired immediately.  This one-week suspension is a joke!

I agree.

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#7 2011-07-28 18:52:43

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

A few things bother me on this. First, surfing this sort of site at work brings Greanias' judgement into question.

Does METRO not have a Websense subscription to block this sort of thing? Do METRO employees get unlimited access to the internet? Games? Sports? Gambling? Having policies is good, but you need tools to enforce those polices and prevent access to certain sites.

How the hell did he hook his personal computer up to the METRO network? Any sysadmin with a smidgen of brain knows you don't allow foreign PC's on the network. I know my employers network will not give an IP address to any device whose MAC address hasn't been registered in Active Directory.  It sounds like the METRO network is wide open and subject to exploitation.

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#8 2011-07-28 19:00:43

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Okay, the front page of two of the websites with "boy" in the name pretty graphically depict what appear to be underage boys engaged in gay sex acts.

It's bad enough that Mr. Greanias was trolling gay porn/prostitution sites on METRO resources. Highly illegal child porn (or a close approximation) is a WHOLE other thing.

This needs further explanation, and Mr. Greanias needs to be suspended indefinitely until one is provided. If he has a satisfactory explanation, fine (and it's hard to imagine what that would be, but we are advocates of due process). If not, he should be terminated.

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#9 2011-07-28 21:00:01

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Not to defend Greanias, but there is a possible explanation that does not equate to him being a pedophile. he COULD be a victim of malware of some sort. But that would again come back around to poor IT administration on the part of METRO. which would possibly explain why he was only suspended for a week instead of being summarily terminated and brought up on child pornography charges. it also begs the question how he contracted such a thing to begin with. these sorts of things usually result due to bad surfing practices, but it could have occurred if he was using a unpatched browser and inadvertently mistyped a URL that was acting as a malware host.


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#10 2011-07-28 21:16:24

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Yep. I'm open to an explanation, but the nature of two of those sites pretty much demands that he offer one.

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#11 2011-07-28 22:31:45

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Well obviously it wasn't a case of getting malware. From hairballs:

"The violation was unintentional," Greanias said in a letter to Metro employees. "I thought I was using my own computer, but was in fact in Metro's system -- but it was a violation all the same. The sites I accessed were of a sexual nature -- to say the least, highly inappropriate, and embarrassing."

It was noted on the news that he was appointed by Mayor Parker. What won't be asked is how much gay cronyism is now going on with this administration. And probably another reason he wasn't asked to hand in his resignation.

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#12 2011-07-29 08:06:55

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Well, that would appear to be pretty cut and dried then. he admits to doing it, the websites show underage boys engaging in gay sex acts. how is it he isn't going to jail for pedophilia?


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#13 2011-07-29 08:17:19

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Rorschach,

It's possible that he merely opened the two highly questionable websites thinking they were something else or they were "popped" open from his other sites, he saw what they were, and immediately closed them. The IT people should be able to answer the question of whether or not he visited additional pages on those sites. If he did, I can't imagine any explanation that could save his job, and his job might be the least of his worries.

I do think he and METRO owe the public more of an explanation regarding two of those sites.

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#14 2011-07-29 09:00:53

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

All of the comments made here are of interest, but Ror, it's one thing to go to a website that shows underage boys, but until a prosecutor has proof that Mr. Greanias actually engaged in any such acts with underage boys, then Mr. Greanias is presumed not guilty of having done such a thing.

But the fact that he did visit such sites is disturbing. 

And yes, it is rather sloppy that the Metro IS department doesn't have some simple software employed, perhaps Websense is a good package, to block such usage says quite a bit about the agency. Building those trains has drained the agency more than we think!

Neal


It's one thing to read or listen to what people say they want. It is far more important however to watch what people actually do. That is when you can make a judgment as to what it is that people really value and what is genuinely important to them.

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#15 2011-07-29 09:46:09

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

As usual, city government is way behind the curve when it comes to effective software administration; cruising porn sites should not even be possible in the workplace.  I assume it is not possible in mine, but since I've never tried (and never will), I don't know for sure.  But this reminds of the city council candidate I met in 1999 who said he had saved the city tens of thousands of dollars by introducing the use of Excel spreadsheets for financial analysis ...

I'm sorely disappointed because Greanias has been one of the (seemingly) smarter guys in local government.  He is clearly the first person with a brain who has ever run Metro.  But to say that he thought he was using his personal computer when he was on the city's computer ... as Paul Sorvino said in Goodfellas, don't make a jerk of me.  I'm stupid but not that stupid; apparently Boy George IS that stupid.

He's gotta go.  So sorry this happened.

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#16 2011-07-29 09:58:06

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Neal, under the law, just accessing the image is a crime since the image must be transmitted to the local machine. And from the information reported by METRO, he accessed that site as well as an image server and a preview server at the same domain on multiple occasions. So a claim that it was accidental does not wash.


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#17 2011-07-29 12:02:55

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

How can you NOT tell the difference between your own computer and your work computer?

Re: outside computers -- major vendors and contractors are the problem; when you bring them on board to work on a major project, it's the norm to provide them with office space so they're right there, accessible to your people for planning sessions, work, and informal consultation.  If they have to pay for their own office space (assuming out of town) or work from their own offices (assuming in town), it's inconvenient as hell and raises the cost.  And they bring their laptops, with all their own software installed.  (The alternative is to  pay them while they stand there and do nothing but install and configure their software on your computers for the first day or two.)  And what a contractor can get, a CEO can.

So yeah, a personal laptop hooked to the City or Metro (or likely, HCounty) network is not unusual.

Re: Active directories -- the City of Houston is still on NT4.0; its active directory project has been....'under way' for several years.  Thank you Richard Lewis. 

Re: gay underage porn.  In any rational organization, he would be finished and facing jail time.  Simple POSSESSION of such "inappropriate" pictures is a federal offense.  In the US, even drawings are illegal.   Watch the DA and local fed not even hiccup.  At most, a statement will be released and then they'll forget about it.  Don't look for the Bozonicle to kick over it.


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#18 2011-07-29 19:36:26

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

I say he's just another Greek.


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#19 2011-07-29 19:43:31

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Ok, I take the last comment back.

I'd rather see METRO fire the urban rail NUTS and shut down the wasteful tram and extension activities, and leave GG to his proclivities.


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#20 2011-07-30 14:32:21

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

It's interesting that the press release on METRO's website is backdated 26 July 2011 (the scandal was announced on 28 July 2011).

Does this mean that METRO purposely sat on this scandal that the Mayor Parker Greanias could announce their little underpass decision for Harrisburg without having to answer any tough questions about Greanias apparent underage gay porn viewing habits on public resources?

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#21 2011-07-30 14:41:50

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

AND to give Greanias plenty of time to flush the internet cache of his laptop (and his desktop?) so he could not be indicted for the possession of child pornography when Lykos is finally guilted into opening an investigation.


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#22 2011-07-31 14:14:40

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

Kevin wrote:

It's interesting that the press release on METRO's website is backdated 26 July 2011 (the scandal was announced on 28 July 2011).

Does this mean that METRO purposely sat on this scandal that the Mayor Parker Greanias could announce their little underpass decision for Harrisburg without having to answer any tough questions about Greanias apparent underage gay porn viewing habits on public resources?

is the press release backdated for sure? or is the reporting of it 2 days after the release?

if it's backdated, is that common practice for press releases? in my experience the only reason to classify a document as a press release is to get the info to the interested media early so that it can be more widely disseminated to the general public. backdating makes no sense unless it is to support the ulterior political motive mentioned in the post above, or something even more convoluted in this mayoral election year.

what a mess. and Greanias did have the potential to be the best manager METRO has ever had.

he has to step down. it's not the sexual preference, it's the kiddie porn - even if the actors on the sites are not underage.

Last edited by IHB2 (2011-07-31 14:15:33)

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#23 2011-07-31 15:48:16

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

is the press release backdated for sure? or is the reporting of it 2 days after the release?

Here's the entry in METRO's News Releases:

7/28/11    METRO CEO Suspended One Week For Violating Computer Policy

And here's the header of the press release:

METRO CEO SUSPENDED ONE WEEK FOR VIOLATING COMPUTER POLICY

July 26, 2011

The whole sorry mess is a disgrace.

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#24 2011-07-31 20:08:04

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

One can't contrive such a poignant Greek Tragedy.


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and my meager earnings; whereas,
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#25 2011-08-01 08:32:14

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Re: METRO Playwright-in-chief Greanias suspended for accessing porn at work

One must remember that under federal law, even SIMULATIONS or depictions of child pornography are illegal to access or possess.


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